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A list of all pages that have property "Archivistnotes" with value "The currently available dates of his death make his parentage of 'gyur med 'phrin las rnam rgyal impossible, so there is likely an issue with either the dating of his passing or the birth of his son.". Since there have been only a few results, also nearby values are displayed.

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  • Sngags 'chang mthu stobs grags pa  + (This is possibly the same person as the 4th Yolmo Tulku, Zil gnon dbang rgyal rdo rje)
  • Nyang ral nyi ma 'od zer  + (Dates are given in accordance with Kongtrul's bio. Alternative dates are 1124-1192.)
  • Mi la ras pa  + (Dates vary depending on source)
  • Gter bdag gling pa 'gyur med rdo rje  + (Dates: Kongtrul records the birth year as Dates: Kongtrul records the birth year as a wood dog year, which would be 1634, while the more commonly given year of 1646 is a fire dog year. However, this latter date matches with Kongtrul's statement that he passed in a wood horse year in his 69th year, i.e. at the age of 68.r in his 69th year, i.e. at the age of 68.)
  • Mnga' ris paN chen pad+ma dbang rgyal  + (Son of 'jam dbyangs rin chen rgyal mtshan and brother of Legs ldan bdud 'joms rdo rje)
  • Khyung sprul pad+ma dbang chen bstan 'dzin phrin las  + (There seems to be some issues with the datThere seems to be some issues with the dates for this figure. The current Khyungtrul, enthroned first by Dilgo Khyentse and then later by Penor Rinpoche, lives in Washington D.C. and is the son of the late Lama Ralo. So either there was a long gap between tulkus or the previous incarnation, pictured on this page, lived sometime in the early three quarters of the 20th century. Otherwise, it is likely that there are two different figures being conflated here. See [https://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Sangyum_Kusho_Tseten_Yudron Note 2 on this page]._Kusho_Tseten_Yudron Note 2 on this page].)
  • 'gyur med pad+ma bstan 'dzin  + (The currently available dates of his death make his parentage of 'gyur med 'phrin las rnam rgyal impossible, so there is likely an issue with either the dating of his passing or the birth of his son.)
  • Pad+ma gling pa  + (Dates are based on Kongtrul's bio in the Terton Gyatsa. Alternative dates are 1450-1521.)
  • Kun dga' 'bum ma  + (Dates are based on Kongtrul's reckoning in the Terton Gyatsa.)
  • Du gu rin chen seng+ge  + (Dates based on Kongtrul's statement that he revealed the dpal rdo rje gtsug lag phrin las drag po cycle two hundred years after Trisong Deutsen concealed it.)
  • Mchog ldan mgon po  + (Dates don't match with Kongtrul's assertion that he lived during the 7th rabjung)
  • Mi 'gyur dpal sgron  + (Daughter of Gter bdag gling pa 'gyur med rdo rje)
  • Phrin las lhun grub  + (Father of Gter bdag gling pa 'gyur med rdo rje and Smin gling lo chen d+harma shrI;)
  • Gu ru jo tshe  + (He was considered to be the directly previous birth of Sangs rgyas gling pa)
  • Ngag gi dbang po  + (He was the son of Byang bdag bkra shis stobs rgyal and the founder of the important Nyingma Monastery Dorje Drak, i.e. thub bstan rdo rje brag e waM lcog sgar.)
  • Brang ti rgyal nye mkhar bu  + (It is unclear whether this figure refers tIt is unclear whether this figure refers to either brang ti rgyal gnyer mkhar phug [https://www.tbrc.org/#!rid=P5529 BDRC P5529] or brang ti rgyal ba bzang po [https://www.tbrc.org/#!rid=P5015 BDRC 95015], neither of which match up with Kongtrul's bio. The former, whom was a circa 7th century royal physician, is too early a figure to have been the revealer. While the latter, whom was one of the bod sman mkhas pa mi dgu mentioned by Kongtrul, seems to have been the son of the figure Kongtrul claims passed down the treasure. Though, as he states, he couldn't find an extensive history of this figure, so he might have been mistaken on certain details. However, elsewhere it is written that the latter is the rebirth of the former. See [https://www.tbrc.org/#!rid=W17722 BDRC W17722, pg 74].tbrc.org/#!rid=W17722 BDRC W17722, pg 74])
  • Kun spangs zla 'od  + (Kongtrul gives seemingly contradictory datKongtrul gives seemingly contradictory dates for this figure, stating in his bio that he lived during the early years of Guru Chowang (c. early 13th cent.) and at the same time as Yonten Gonpo (c. 12th cent.). However, later in the chronology provided at the end of the Terton Gyatsa, he states that he lived during the 2nd rabjung, which conforms with the latter assessment.which conforms with the latter assessment.)
  • Yongs dge mi 'gyur rdo rje  + (Kongtrul puts him in the 10th rabjung, whiKongtrul puts him in the 10th rabjung, while stating that he was born in a male earth dragon year, which most commonly is considered to be that of the 11th rabjung. However, this date 1628 would make him still an infant when his first teacher Zurmang Trungpa 04 gave him ordination. The date of his death is also problematic.The date of his death is also problematic.)
  • Sna nam 'brog pa thub rgyal  + (Kongtrul states that he is the previous birth of snye mo zhu yas)
  • Karma 'gyur med tshe dbang  + (Not sure if this is the same scribe used by Kongtrul, Karma 'gyur med)
  • Ra zhi pad+ma rig 'dzin  + (Previous birth of Chos rje gling pa)
  • Chos kyi 'od zer (12th c.)  + (Related to (nye gnas) Nyang ral nyi ma'i 'Related to (nye gnas) Nyang ral nyi ma'i 'od zer (1124-1192), but other information unknown. See colophon of this text: Chos kyi 'od zer, Myang ston bsod nams seng ge, and Mi 'gyur rdo rje. sprul sku mnga' bdag chen po'i skyes rabs rnam thar dri ma med pa'i bka' rgya can la ldeb. In Bka' brgyad bde gshegs dus pa'i chos skor, 1: 1-163. Gangtok: Lama Sonam Tobgay Kazi, 1978. BDRC W1KG12075 (researched on March 12, 2021 [[User:Marcus|Marcus]] ([[User talk:Marcus|talk]]) 17:30, 12 March 2021 (UTC)).[[User talk:Marcus|talk]]) 17:30, 12 March 2021 (UTC)).)
  • Mu tig btsan po  + (Son of Khri srong lde'u btsan and father of rgyal sras lha rje)
  • Smin gling lo chen d+harma shrI  + (Son of Phrin las lhun grub and younger brother of Gter bdag gling pa 'gyur med rdo rje)
  • Grub thob dngos grub  + (The alternate names, date of birth, and BDRC link given for this figure come from the Bon tradition for whom he was also a terton.)
  • 'gyur med pad+ma bstan 'dzin  +
  • 'gyur med 'phrin las rnam rgyal  + (The currently available dates of his birth come 4 years after the death of his father, so there is likely an issue with either the dating of his birth or his father's passing.)
  • Grwa pa mngon shes  + (The dates given here taken from BDRC run cThe dates given here taken from BDRC run counter to Kongtrul's assertion that he was born during the 1st rabjung, which would make the dates 1072-1150. However, these latter dates would make Drapa some twenty years the junior of his student Machik Labdron. the junior of his student Machik Labdron.)
  • Yi ge pa kun bzang rnam rgyal  + (The prefix of yi ge pa is not actually part of this person's name. Rather it is merely used here to distinguish this figure from the author Kun bzang rnam rgyal on this website.)
  • Khams gsum zil gnon  + (There appears to be some discrepancies in There appears to be some discrepancies in the numbering of the rdor brag rig 'dzin line of incarnations. Here, I'm following the numbering maintained in the outline of the Rinchen Terdzod. Furthermore, it isn't clear whom this figure is, as this name is frequently associated with both skal bzang pad+ma dbang phyug or kun bzang 'gyur med lhun grub, the 5th and 7th rdor brag rig 'dzin according to Terdzod's numbering scheme.n according to Terdzod's numbering scheme.)
  • Legs ldan bdud 'joms rdo rje  + (There are issues with the dating of this fThere are issues with the dating of this figures and the most common alternatives are 1452-1565 or 1512-1625. The earlier date conforms with Kongtrul's assertion that he lived in the 8th rabjung, but it also seems to make him older than mnga' ris paN chen pad+ma dbang rgyal, whom Kongtrul claims to have been Lekden's older brother. Furthermore, neither of the dates seem to work so well when compared to the dates of their father, ('jam dbyangs rin chen rgyal mtshan 1445-1558), whom would have been either 7 or 77 at the time of his birth. And though the latter is not entirely impossible, the recognition of his rebirth as ngag gi dbang po, the son of his disciple byang bdag bkra shis stobs rgyal, would be, since Jangdak would have passed away some two decades before Lekden, himself, passed away.cades before Lekden, himself, passed away.)
  • Gnyag phu ba bsod nams bzang po  + (There is another bsod nams bzang po on [https://www.tbrc.org/#!rid=P2460 BDRC] and [https://treasuryoflives.org/biographies/view/Sonam-Zangpo/4164 TOL] that has the exact same dates and many of the same teacher/student relationships.)