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  • Drapa Ngönshe  + (The dates given here taken from BDRC run cThe dates given here taken from BDRC run counter to Kongtrul's assertion that he was born during the 1st rabjung, which would make the dates 1072-1150. However, these latter dates would make Drapa some twenty years the junior of his student Machik Labdron. the junior of his student Machik Labdron.)
  • Lekden Dudjom Dorje  + (There are issues with the dating of this fThere are issues with the dating of this figures and the most common alternatives are 1452-1565 or 1512-1625. The earlier date conforms with Kongtrul's assertion that he lived in the 8th rabjung, but it also seems to make him older than mnga' ris paN chen pad+ma dbang rgyal, whom Kongtrul claims to have been Lekden's older brother. Furthermore, neither of the dates seem to work so well when compared to the dates of their father, ('jam dbyangs rin chen rgyal mtshan 1445-1558), whom would have been either 7 or 77 at the time of his birth. And though the latter is not entirely impossible, the recognition of his rebirth as ngag gi dbang po, the son of his disciple byang bdag bkra shis stobs rgyal, would be, since Jangdak would have passed away some two decades before Lekden, himself, passed away.cades before Lekden, himself, passed away.)
  • Gnyag phu ba bsod nams bzang po  + (There is another bsod nams bzang po on [https://www.tbrc.org/#!rid=P2460 BDRC] and [https://treasuryoflives.org/biographies/view/Sonam-Zangpo/4164 TOL] that has the exact same dates and many of the same teacher/student relationships.)
  • Khyungtrul Pema Wangchen Tendzin Trinle  + (There seems to be some issues with the datThere seems to be some issues with the dates for this figure. The current Khyungtrul, enthroned first by Dilgo Khyentse and then later by Penor Rinpoche, lives in Washington D.C. and is the son of the late Lama Ralo. So either there was a long gap between tulkus or the previous incarnation, pictured on this page, lived sometime in the early three quarters of the 20th century. Otherwise, it is likely that there are two different figures being conflated here. See [https://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Sangyum_Kusho_Tseten_Yudron Note 2 on this page]._Kusho_Tseten_Yudron Note 2 on this page].)
  • Nyewar Nepa Sangak Tendzin  + (This figure acted as Kongtrul's scribe on several texts when Kongtul was in his 80's. It's not clear if this is the same person as chags med sprul sku gsang sngags bstan 'dzin.)
  • Dungtso Repa "The Later"  + (While BDRC puts him in the 15th Century, Kongtrul places him in the 5th rabjung, which would have him living during the late 13th to early 14th Century.)
  • Chokden Gönpo  + (Dates don't match with Kongtrul's assertion that he lived during the 7th rabjung)
  • Ldan ma dkon mchog seng+ge  + (BDRC only has this person by this name [https://www.tbrc.org/#!rid=P1590 P1590], whom lived much too late to be a student of Phywa pa chos kyi seng+ge.)
  • Jangchub Lingpa  + (Date is based on Kongtrul's statement that Sangs rgyas gling pa discovered a terma destined for byang chub gling pa, which lead to their meeting in person.)
  • Pema Lingpa  + (Dates are based on Kongtrul's bio in the Terton Gyatsa. Alternative dates are 1450-1521.)
  • Kunga Buma  + (Dates are based on Kongtrul's reckoning in the Terton Gyatsa.)
  • Nyangral Nyima Özer  + (Dates are given in accordance with Kongtrul's bio. Alternative dates are 1124-1192.)
  • Dugu Rinchen Senge  + (Dates based on Kongtrul's statement that he revealed the dpal rdo rje gtsug lag phrin las drag po cycle two hundred years after Trisong Deutsen concealed it.)
  • Chokden Gönpo  +
  • Milarepa  + (Dates vary depending on source)
  • Minling Terchen Gyurme Dorje  + (Dates: Kongtrul records the birth year as Dates: Kongtrul records the birth year as a wood dog year, which would be 1634, while the more commonly given year of 1646 is a fire dog year. However, this latter date matches with Kongtrul's statement that he passed in a wood horse year in his 69th year, i.e. at the age of 68.r in his 69th year, i.e. at the age of 68.)
  • Darcharwa Rinchen Zangpo  + (Discussed by Kongtrul in relation to his rediscovery of the treasure initially revealed by the gter ston gsum tshogs)
  • Drangti Gyalnye Kharbu  + (It is unclear whether this figure refers tIt is unclear whether this figure refers to either brang ti rgyal gnyer mkhar phug [https://www.tbrc.org/#!rid=P5529 BDRC P5529] or brang ti rgyal ba bzang po [https://www.tbrc.org/#!rid=P5015 BDRC 95015], neither of which match up with Kongtrul's bio. The former, whom was a circa 7th century royal physician, is too early a figure to have been the revealer. While the latter, whom was one of the bod sman mkhas pa mi dgu mentioned by Kongtrul, seems to have been the son of the figure Kongtrul claims passed down the treasure. Though, as he states, he couldn't find an extensive history of this figure, so he might have been mistaken on certain details. However, elsewhere it is written that the latter is the rebirth of the former. See [https://www.tbrc.org/#!rid=W17722 BDRC W17722, pg 74].tbrc.org/#!rid=W17722 BDRC W17722, pg 74])
  • Jamyang Lama  + (Kongtrul claims that he lived during the 6th Rabjung, but this contradicts the notion that he was the subsequent rebirth of Rigdzin Godem, who lived well into the 7th Rabjung.)
  • Kunpang Dawö  + (Kongtrul gives seemingly contradictory datKongtrul gives seemingly contradictory dates for this figure, stating in his bio that he lived during the early years of Guru Chowang (c. early 13th cent.) and at the same time as Yonten Gonpo (c. 12th cent.). However, later in the chronology provided at the end of the Terton Gyatsa, he states that he lived during the 2nd rabjung, which conforms with the latter assessment.which conforms with the latter assessment.)
  • Sumpa Jangchub Tsultrim  + (Kongtrul gives this figure's bio in relation to his inclusion in the gter ston sum tshogs)
  • Kyangpo Drakpa Wangchuk  + (Kongtrul gives this figure's bio in relation to his inclusion in the gter ston sum tshogs)
  • Yonge Mingyur Dorje  + (Kongtrul puts him in the 10th rabjung, whiKongtrul puts him in the 10th rabjung, while stating that he was born in a male earth dragon year, which most commonly is considered to be that of the 11th rabjung. However, this date 1628 would make him still an infant when his first teacher Zurmang Trungpa 04 gave him ordination. The date of his death is also problematic.The date of his death is also problematic.)
  • Yönten Gönpo  + (Kongtrul puts him in the 3rd rabjung, rather than the 2nd.)
  • Zhikpo Lingpa  + (Kongtrul puts him in the 8th rabjung, rather than the 9th.)
  • Badz+ra ma ti  + (Kongtrul states that Vajramati was an Indian that revealed treasures in Nepal, while elsewhere he is referred to as the Nepali Terton (bal yul gter ston).)
  • Nanam Drokpa Tupgyal  + (Kongtrul states that he is the previous birth of snye mo zhu yas)
  • Nyida Longsal  + (Kongtrul's bio of this figure is included within the history of the bhrU rlung gi man ngag)
  • Karma Gyurme Tsewang  + (Not sure if this is the same scribe used by Kongtrul, Karma 'gyur med)
  • Zurkhar Dawai Özer  + (Son of Dri med gling pa; b. Date based on Kongtrul's assertion that his father passed away when he was six years old.)
  • Gyurme Trinle Namgyal  + (The currently available dates of his birth come 4 years after the death of his father, so there is likely an issue with either the dating of his birth or his father's passing.)
  • Gyurme Pema Tendzin  + (The currently available dates of his death make his parentage of 'gyur med 'phrin las rnam rgyal impossible, so there is likely an issue with either the dating of his passing or the birth of his son.)